Knocked down - fight on your knees, you can't get up - attack lying down!
Margelov V.F.
As in general in special units Russian Federation, in the Airborne Forces (VDV) there is a complete lack of a single and stepwise training for hand-to-hand combat. (see article)
The official system of hand-to-hand combat in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation simply does not exist and never existed. (This may be due to one of the following two reasons:
2. A bet on the traditional “Russian chance” - we traditionally had young people who fought well, they will cope somehow, if anything, as they say, “We will shower anyone with hats again”
Meanwhile, in the armed forces of foreign states, such systems exist and are constantly developing, for example:
In special units ("Navy SEALs") of the US Army, a fairly developed system of hand-to-hand combat is used (see the heading -)
In the Israel Defense Forces - Krav Maga (more in the section -)
At the same time, for some reason, it is the fighters of the Airborne Forces that have traditionally been considered quite serious “hand-to-hand combat” since Soviet times. And it is possible that the army leadership believes that the paratroopers themselves already know everything, and therefore do not particularly interfere in the training for hand-to-hand combat, and the paratroopers - if this is not required by the charter, practice it - whoever is. (And apparently the main calculation in the Airborne Forces is ultimately placed on recruits who are selected from recruits who are fond of martial arts and martial arts.)
And there are quite a meager amount of training materials on the Airborne Forces hand-to-hand combat on the Web, of which only two films released in the Soviet Union can be recognized as “official”. The rest of the films were made simply by hand-to-hand combat enthusiasts who served or are serving in the Airborne Forces.
Soviet films about hand-to-hand combat in the Airborne Troops.
Hand-to-hand combat training in the Airborne Forces
(an excerpt from the film of the USSR Ministry of Defense "Physical training of a paratrooper"
As you can see, paratroopers use karate techniques and methods in training. But only the shown karate technique looks exceptionally “dirty”. It can be seen that people have seen something somewhere but do not understand at all why it is necessary to do it in this way, and not in some other way. All the more ridiculous is this "karate" looks in sports shorts - but at that time it apparently did not bother anyone - it is convenient for people and this is actually the most important thing. (At that time, apparently, they still didn’t know that at least a kimono was needed for classes.) And the teacher, too, to match - he shows such techniques as if he taught them from a book - it’s clear that these techniques are almost completely divorced from reality. This was, in fact, the beginning of karate in the Airborne Forces.
Although, as you can see, the gym for hand-to-hand combat is very well and diversely equipped, one might say - “with soul”. It can be seen that the coach is a very big fan of karate.
This video, by the way, is part of the following video:
Physical training of a paratrooper
The "oldest" film in which you can see hand-to-hand combat training in the Airborne Forces is 1973. The film studio of the Ministry of Defense of the USSR - such films were shot by educational ones at one time.
1:52 - pay attention, the paratroopers obviously perform some kind of complex based on karate techniques (also in an exceptionally "dirty style" - but these are clearly karate techniques, although very distorted. With some simply incredible swings and turns. With modern point vision, just something incredibly collective farm. Also, apparently, the study clearly proceeded from books, and books without translation, apparently from drawings - which, moreover, were studied inattentively. But it should be taken into account that this is 1973 and the paratroopers have already begun to study karate techniques from books.
(It’s also interesting, in the USSR there was a very powerful foreign intelligence service, well, they would have brought books on karate to the paratroopers, since they like doing karate so much, and the translators would have translated. At that time, in general, Bruce Lee was already shining - the best films with his participation, If they bought it or stole it, they would bring it and show it to the paratroopers en masse. .
It turns out that this was the level of karate in the Airborne Forces - just enthusiasts apparently tried to introduce it, without any support from the army and the state.
Well, they would introduce boxing or sambo en masse, but for some reason they teach karate techniques that they themselves don’t know - it’s fashionable, because it’s probably. And this is the USSR Ministry of Defense filming, in 1973.
Interestingly, the first airborne unit was formed in 1930, the Airborne Forces were created in 1954, that is, 20 years have passed by the time the film was made, and now we see that the paratroopers are trying to learn some obvious crap for hand-to-hand combat. (It should be borne in mind that these are elite special units - and such crap is studied and shown in the film of the USSR Ministry of Defense. Is it really impossible to create something original in 20 years. Something one could really be proud of. But apparently in the USSR it was no one needs it. Some sort of Landing Hand-to-Hand Combat (RBD) - and they would assign ranks and organize competitions - people would like it. But no, and so far nothing serious has been done in the direction of the mass development of hand-to-hand combat in the Airborne Forces, And somehow the Airborne Forces have their own system, as they say somehow “didn’t go in”, from the word “completely”.)
That is, the level of training for hand-to-hand combat shown in the film "Physical Training" is obviously unsuitable for use in real conditions. (I note - obviously unsuitable, it can be seen simply with the naked eye.)
And accordingly, and 65 years after the official creation of the Airborne Forces and after 26 years of the existence of the Russian Federation, no own system of hand-to-hand combat in the airborne forces has appeared.
Apparently, all the same, this is dictated by some practical considerations - perhaps just real experience showed that for a paratrooper, hand-to-hand combat does not have any special or key significance, since in terms of efficiency it is significantly inferior in terms of the ability to defeat firearms.
It may be that all hand-to-hand combat in special units and special forces and special forces ultimately comes down to a situation from:
“Hand-to-hand combat instructor to cadets: — To engage in hand-to-hand combat, a fighter must squander on the battlefield: a machine gun, a pistol, a knife, a waist belt, a shovel, body armor, a helmet. Find a flat area on which not a single stone or stick is lying around. Find on it the same slob. And even then, engage in hand-to-hand combat with him! .. "
And for such a simple reason - the improbability of such a situation, hand-to-hand combat in special units is not particularly developed. Just out of necessity. And to develop the fighting spirit of the fighters special units The Russian army uses completely different methods and exercises.
Although, in fact, as a means of personal development of a fighter, hand-to-hand combat is still out of competition in this area, all the same, hand-to-hand combat is practiced on an ongoing basis in all special units. But a unified and structured system of hand-to-hand combat has not yet been created in any of the special units of Russia.
Russian hand-to-hand combat training videos for the Airborne Troops
Unfortunately, no "official" manuals on hand-to-hand combat from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation have yet been created - all training materials on hand-to-hand combat for the Airborne Forces have been released exclusively by airborne and hand-to-hand combat enthusiasts.
Film hand-to-hand combat of the Airborne Forces (in two parts)
From the "Martial Arts of the World" series.
Hand-to-hand combat of the Airborne Forces (Part One) - duration 1 hour 20 minutes.
The following melee technical arsenal is shown:
- Fall insurance and self-insurance
- Ways to unbalance
- Exemptions from grips
- Basic throws
- Combat use of basic throws
- Knife protection
- Defense against knife threats with a stick or baton
- Pistol protection
- Leaving the line of attack
- punches
- Protection against punches
- Stick protection
- Defense against threats with a knife
After the section "Combat use of the main throws", the technique is shown rather chaotically, and randomly - as if the authors got tired of making this film at some point, and they began to do it somehow - just to finish.
Hand-to-hand combat of the Airborne Forces (Part Two)
Duration over 2 hours. The second part is completely devoted to physical training:
- Warm up
- Stretching
- Physical exercise
- Practicing technique (working out punches and kicks, practicing throws)
- And in conclusion, for some reason, protection from the Kalashnikov assault rifle is suddenly shown
Hand-to-Hand Combat Lessons - Airborne Troops Experience
A short TV report about Senior Lieutenant Maxim Rodionov serving in a separate 215th reconnaissance company of the Airborne Forces. And about his method of preparing for hand-to-hand combat. (That is, the senior lieutenant of the reconnaissance company of the Airborne Forces came up with his own method of preparing for hand-to-hand combat, that they even filmed a short report about him for a television program. This is actually the level of development of hand-to-hand combat in the Airborne Forces that an ordinary officer came up with his own methodology and teaches it to paratroopers, and they are so inexperienced in this matter that everyone likes it from the bosses to the privates. But at the same time, no one is in a hurry to somehow promote Maxim Rodionov - to develop a hand-to-hand combat system for the Airborne Forces. He teaches in a company and this is quite enough for him. And how many of these The Maksimov Rodionovs were in the same Airborne Forces, probably quite a significant number, they also probably showed the recruits hand-to-hand combat techniques on the ground, and then with all their experience they simply "sank into oblivion" and that's it. Apparently, after all, just no one tried to develop hand-to-hand combat, into some unified system of close combat of paratroopers, and most likely because of the official army approach to human creativity. ok, but then it's none of our business.)
A very original master and teacher of applied hand-to-hand combat Valery Kryuchkov (see article -) - teaches hand-to-hand combat to military personnel of the 331st Airborne Reconnaissance. And in this case, Valery Kryuchkov still managed to create his own hand-to-hand combat system (or, as he calls it, the Active Defense System), and popularize it very well. But again, in the Airborne Forces, where Valery Kryuchkov taught her, she did not take root, as you can see. He taught - people liked it, he stopped teaching, and God bless him. Couldn't get her anywhere. sports hall a separate reconnaissance company of the Airborne Forces. This is also a characteristic for the leadership of the Airborne Forces, for combat talents. Nobody needs to just. The man has been engaged for many years, apparently on sheer enthusiasm, simply - to protect the Motherland, so to speak.)
And a short video about the report of the Zvezda correspondent in which he took a lesson in hand-to-hand combat from an airborne fighter. Unfortunately it's only 2 minutes long. And about hand-to-hand combat - very little. It is simply told that the paratroopers are great masters of hand-to-hand combat. But as it turns out, these are enthusiastic people who serve in the Airborne Forces, who really like martial arts, and which these same martial arts are constantly trying to promote in the Air landing troops- but so far these people are simply praised for what great fellow paratroopers they are, that they are trying to master martial arts on their own.
That is, such a paradox turns out to be some kind of unified system of hand-to-hand combat in the Airborne Forces for many years of their existence has not been created. But the paratroopers from somewhere master the techniques of hand-to-hand combat, for which their superiors praise and are proud of them. But it does not develop this idea in any way due to bureaucracy, although it is obvious that the paratroopers would like such an idea - to create their own "landing" hand-to-hand combat system, and somehow develop and develop it. And so it seems that the paratroopers know hand-to-hand combat, but it’s as if in the Airborne Forces it doesn’t exist at all.
For comparison, the article - people who design clothes for the military for promotional purposes shoot videos on hand-to-hand combat - and compared to all these videos "for paratroopers", these techniques look pretty cool.
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Hand-to-hand combat of the special forces of the Airborne Forces.
From an article by Sergei Nikolaevich Badyuk.
Hand-to-hand combat training.
A fighter is dressed in defense, placed against an order of magnitude stronger and more experienced fighter - and beaten. This is how a fighting character and determination to go to the end are formed. Not to be confused with hazing, a soldier is always given the opportunity to fight back. Even so: a soldier who does not fight back is sent “over the fence”. The peculiarity of special forces hand-to-hand combat is that any duel comes down to one thing - to destroy the enemy. Hence the motto of the commando: "Only idiots fight with their bare hands." First of all, soldiers are taught to use improvised means: a machine gun, a knife, sticks, stones, fragments of bottles, pieces of glass, tightly folded newspapers.
And only then, when they have mastered all the essentials, a very compact set of percussion equipment is trained.
Side left and side right from boxing technique.
It is very difficult to teach direct blows to hit hard; in my entire service, I have almost never seen fighters who hit straight straight well. Such a blow requires the highest level preparation. We proceed from the fact that it is necessary to quickly and well prepare a fighter. Since there are no restrictions, a bunch of varieties and options can be brought under this side kick. He fights from any positions and angles. Moreover, it is desirable to first strike the enemy in the throat.
In close combat, we beat with elbows. We train the knockout force of impact with exercises with a sledgehammer.
The whole technique of kicks in special forces comes down to one thing - swipe in the groin This is not a sports ground for you.
"Remember, the main technique of hand-to-hand combat: first, throw a grenade at the enemy... ”- from the instructions of the hand-to-hand instructor, the head of the physical training of the parachute regiment (RPA).
Perhaps the main secret of the hand-to-hand combat style of the Airborne Forces is that ... there were no secrets! There are no and never existed any terrible special strikes at super-secret points, no “delayed death touches” and other super-exotics ... So, paratroopers and special forces are lying, claiming that the Beret will cope with several opponents in a fight? - No! Don't lie! Works and is very EFFECTIVE!
But if you film this fight and show it later at normal speed, then 9 out of 10 spectators will simply not understand anything about what is happening, and half will be disappointed and wonder: why do they fall so easily? What's the matter?
I want to clarify right away - I'm not talking here about the hand-to-hand combat of "special forces", especially officer units such as "Vympel", "Alpha" and "Cascade", especially imprisoned for forceful detention of living languages or criminals! — there is its own specificity and without knowing I will not even speak! I am talking about hand-to-hand combat training of ordinary airborne forces (Uncle Vasya's troops). Somehow in one book I came across the following reasoning, I quote in a free paraphrase: “ No matter how cynical it sounds, everything has its price and a soldier's life - even more so. This price is the price of training a new soldier to replace an out-of-service soldier. After all, no matter how skilled a fighter is, this will not save him from either a crossbow bolt or, what is more offensive, from bloody diarrhea."... Rough, but fair...
I don’t want to say anything bad about oriental martial arts schools, but ... Prepare in six months or a year real person using the training methods of karate, taekwondo, taijiquan and so on - impossible! In six months, he, at best, will learn two or three basic stances, and the ability to breathe more or less correctly in a stance, and not in battle!
In a real hand-to-hand fight, such a fighter is a danger to only one person - to himself! Only after five or seven years of daily painstaking many hours of training, he will begin to understand that he has only come close to mastering the basics! You understand, preparing SOLDIERS in this way is pointless! There are simply no these five to seven years for the preparation of not even a fighter - a semi-finished product!
As a person who participated (and SURVIVED!) after three real hand-to-hand combat fights, let me note that there is still a school for hand-to-hand combat of the Airborne Forces, a training system! And she is EFFICIENT! What are the basic principles of training a fighter? It should also be taken into account that in addition to physical training, there is also a daily service! Shooting training, training in a combat specialty, drill (to her), outfits and guards, and so on and so forth! But the system has proven its effectiveness, so what does it consist of, this paratrooper hand-to-hand training system? I'll try to answer...
The entire system of hand-to-hand combat training of the Airborne Forces is based on three pillars, each component is important, and the question does not make sense - which one! This - psychological preparation, physical training and a set of basic hand-to-hand combat techniques. Let's take them in turn.
So, PSYCHOLOGICAL PREPARATION . It includes bringing to the subconscious level, to a conditioned reflex: a fight is NOT a competition! It is impossible to WIN OR LOSE! In battle, you can either WIN or die, the third, as they say, is not given ... No one will shake your hand before the fight or make a ritual bow. They will immediately try to kill you, and by all means that are available at the moment!
The preparation was carried out quite simply, but effectively, no one conducted conversations with us and psychological tests - we were simply beaten! Not to defeat, but in such a way that it didn’t seem enough! I emphasize - they didn’t beat them, but beat them! Feel the difference! You could get slapped or be caught in a choke hold at any moment: at the moment of a conversation with an officer, standing on the nightstand as an orderly, just walking through the unit. Dodging a hit or grab was encouraged! The answer is even better! Although this, in fairness it is worth saying, rarely anyone succeeded!
They say that such a system was introduced into the practice of the Airborne Forces by their commander - the legendary V.F. Margelov - I don’t know, but if this is so, then bow to him for that! SUCH a training system saved many lives in real wars, and me too ... I still, although more than thirty years have passed, I simply physically cannot go around the corner of the building close to it, I go around in three or four steps ...
Constant pressure, in which, by the way, there was nothing personal, because the grandfather received the same as the young one, he developed the habit of constant vigilance, the ability not to relax even in a dream, some kind of sixth sense of danger ...
PHYSICAL TRAINING in the Airborne Forces does not require special comments. Endurance training - running in different conditions, goose stepping, alternation of accelerations, ragged rhythm ... strength training- pull-ups, push-ups of various types, squats, jumps ... rocking the press again different ways. All this - “I can’t through it” until complete darkness in my eyes ... I still have enough hurt, although dmb-77 ...
What's up SET OF BASIC TECHNIQUES melee, here it is necessary to decipher ... Not for landing and special forces - they know everything anyway! For fans of films like Rimbaud... This is exactly the training BASIC techniques, and not RECEPTIONS, and quite individual ... Someone is more comfortable throwing, someone prefers shock, someone is closer to chokeholds or techniques to break ligaments and fractures of joints. The basics were given to everyone, then the development of stereotypes, bringing the movement to the level of a knee-jerk reflex - there is no time to think in battle, the body reacts by itself, the thought does not have time!
The blows were practiced on various kinds of simulators such as makiwara and a punching bag, throws - with each other, VERY CAREFULLY AND NOT IN FULL power, also applies to various kinds of pain and suffocation. And after mastering basic movements everyone trained on their own! No combat sparring in real life, with one exception, which is discussed below ... After all, an attempt to carry out, for example, in sparring conditions, an elbow strike to the Adam's apple for one of the fighters may well be the last ...
And I also note, no BALLET in the spirit of Van Dam and Chuck Norris! Legs work up to the knee, not higher! Anterior part of the lower leg and ankle, inner surface of the lower leg. Knee - a blow to the crotch and inside hips. The elbow is mainly for finishing off an enemy who has already lost his bearings. Everything is simple and not spectacular, ugly ... BUT - EFFECTIVE!
Now for the exception: about once every two weeks they put a boxing helmet on you and let you out against four or five people, old-timers or officers. Not right away, one by one. I had to hold out for five minutes… From the first time, as far as I remember, no one succeeded… For the first time I went to rest at the tenth second, missing a powerful straight to the head…
In a real battle, the result would have been my death, since I got up only after about ten minutes ... On the third attempt, I received gratitude in the order in part, because I managed to "put into the ring" the regiment's deputy commander. The captain, by the way, was not offended by me, and the first one, having come to his senses, shook my hand. At the same time, he said: “I started classes ... I need to work.”
We did not kill rats with our bare hands ... but everything is one, the readiness to fight, at any second of the day or night, and not for life, but for death, was absorbed into flesh and blood, into the bone marrow ... That, in general, is all "terrible military secrets" that I was about to tell you.
/Andrey Popov, topwar.ru /
Kochergin even surpassed Badyuk. I haven’t heard about him for a long time, but a recent video reminded once again how martial arts are saturated with all kinds of swindlers.
Documentary!
Only from documentaries dubious information and, frankly, shameful archival videos.
If everything that is shown in the video was really taught, in this form, then hand-to-hand combat in the Airborne Forces can only be sympathized with.
Firstly, a terrible technique for performing tricks, even by the standards of Soviet karate.
Secondly, training in some kind of medical battalion ???
Yes, and let's be honest, hand-to-hand combat, of course, is a cool thing, but, often, many coaches either have a lame “strike” or are very bad at wrestling (the latter is most common). Yes, and you will not see among the champions and celebrities in MMA, for example, representatives of the RB of any kind, and this says something about martial arts, since mixed sports are a litmus test, a kind of reality check of one or another type. And just do not talk about "imprisonment" for a real battle. Real combat needs ammo Combat vehicles and professionals who could manage it.
As for hand-to-hand combat, there are specific techniques that were not shown at all in this pseudo-documentary film.
I had a chance to communicate with veterans of the special forces of the Airborne Forces, special forces of the GRU, who served in those years, there was nothing close to what is shown and said in the film in the Soviet airborne units (maybe with rare exceptions). Yes, and they taught specific techniques, such as removing the sentry, taking the tongue, and not all the ballet shown.
The most important. Yes, the faces shown can be quite real, yes, perhaps some swindler could teach this incomprehensible mixture of Soviet-style Shotokan, but those who are new to law enforcement agencies do not understand the main thing.
Army, Interior Ministry. The FSB and other structures have always been places of "nepotism" and blat. Being there as any instructors is not a reflection of professionalism. All such positions have always been "thieves". You teach yourself physio, and the service goes on, the titles are also not bad.
Well, Kasyanov was an athlete in the army.
Let's be objective and ask ourselves a question - did he have real combat experience? He taught some doctors, for this they reduced the hours of their core subjects.
That is, there is some terrible profanity here. Yes, and Kasyanov developed not the ARB, but his own version of the RB, without contact to the head, more like karate.
Shturmin. With all due respect, what real combat experience did he have? Soviet intellectual, with a fashionable passion. Did he participate? Did you fight somewhere?
I remember the fight scenes they filmed in the Spotlight Zone. If it weren’t for Sambo techniques, it would be excruciatingly painful to look at this, especially at a fight with repeat offenders.
This whole story with the medical battalions, in which half-karate was taught, clearly reminds me of the Kadochnikov system, which was taught for, in fact, a construction battalion.
The creators of this film did not even think how much they disgraced physical training in the Airborne Forces, athletes from hand-to-hand combat. Seeing such a film, the specialist will think about what kind of professionalism can we talk about in the airborne units?
The most terrible thing is that all this took place, which means that our hand-to-hand combat is even worse than I thought.
Now it is fashionable to talk about special forces, martial arts, special forces training, but often people who have only a superficial knowledge of these things talk about it.
It became interesting to me what (anonymously) a representative of, as it is now fashionable to say, special forces will tell about this Soviet army, about the place occupied by martial arts in the training of soldiers and whether the concept of hand-to-hand combat existed.
« Now the pathetic word "special forces" has become fashionable and common noun, but then there was no such term in wide use.».
The military unit in which I began to serve was located in Armenia and, at that time, mountain training. Later, after my dismissal, in the 80s, I learned from the letters of my colleagues that many of those who were trained (they were cadets and officers) left for Afghanistan. In addition, the guys who served in our unit, of a later draft, as part of a consolidated company, also went to Afghanistan.
My military path was not limited to military service, and already in the 80s, I entered the school of ensigns of the Airborne Forces, so I can compare the specifics of urgent and extra-long service.
I had to serve in the military service in a separate reconnaissance platoon of the airborne assault battalion. The guys were recruited there with sports, with ranks, parachute training and, as a rule, education.
Now the pretentious word "special forces" has become fashionable and common noun, but then there was no such term in wide use. In addition to the frequent use of the term "special forces", now you can often meet some "specialists" who are presented as "hand-to-hand combat instructors." Neither in military service, nor in the school of ensigns, nor in further service, I have not seen such a term, I learned about it only in the cinema. In military service, we were taught physical (with elements of special) training by a major, transferred from the GRU, for health reasons. He was a man sincerely in love with martial arts and, most often, he trained with us. The reasons for this were, firstly, the love of the battalion commander for sports and our specific service.
“Today, many people see service in the special forces of the Airborne Forces as a series of fights, training in hand-to-hand combat, and nothing more.”
The major explained to us that he was showing tricks combat sambo, actually about which I heard in the army. Not about sambo in general, but about the combat section, in which the main task is based on the elimination of the enemy. It cannot be said that some movie heroes were prepared from us, nevertheless, whoever wanted to, he learned something. And there was something to learn, the training included techniques with weapons, the removal of sentries, there were also sparring.
Today, service in the special forces of the Airborne Forces is seen by many as a series of fights, training in hand-to-hand combat, and nothing more. But this is a completely wrong idea, a soldier in these units, as well as in all other branches of the military, is engaged in cleaning the territory, sweeping the parade ground, going to outfits. However, the so-called special training we had one, but it didn't look like it's shown in the movies. In my opinion, the battalion commander and the major who taught physical training, as well as some young officers who had recently come from the Ryazan airborne school, played a big role in our training.
“We didn’t really know anything about karate, just as we didn’t have the term “hand-to-hand combat” in our everyday life.
According to some fans martial arts, karate techniques were actively introduced into the power structures of the USSR. In fact, we didn’t really know anything about karate, just as we didn’t have the term “hand-to-hand combat” in our everyday life. The most common elements of karate were in the school of ensigns, although in a very modified version, and then, mainly because it was a personal initiative of some people. In fact, all the training took place with combat elements of sambo.
Sparring took place both in military service and in the ensign school, moreover, in urgent service, they were even tougher. At that moment, we had to go through a kind of initiation - surrender to the beret, to the guards badge. True, this was an unofficial tradition, passing from call to call, but it was necessary to pass such an “exam”. This represented the surrender of standards and sparring with old-timers and, if our major was connected to this, then with officers.
It looked like some sort of mixed martial arts Everyone tried to do what they could. Of course, no one killed anyone, but the fight did not stop even if the opponents fell to the ground. Boxers who came from wrestling, despite the non-combat arsenal of techniques, sambists. Although at that time I myself came from judo, I cannot help but note that, despite the similarities between judo and sambo, sambo wrestlers looked more confident (but this should not be taken as some kind of superiority of one type over the other). It helped me personally that I had, in addition to wrestling, boxing skills.
"Natives of the ordinary combat sports looked quite confident, they were easily trained in combat techniques.
As I said, we didn’t hear anything about karate at that time and there were no karatekas among us. Now, knowing about many types of martial arts, it seems to me that the officer who taught physical training had elements of jiu-jitsu.
Already after military service, when Soviet youth actively visited underground karate sections, where I myself went, we had a chance to hear about kung fu, jiu-jitsu (although I heard about it earlier from one of my friends who served in the Pacific Fleet).
Later, while studying at the school of ensigns, I had to deal with people from karate, as well as a representative of kung fu, at least as he said about himself.
On personal experience, without claiming to be the ultimate truth, I can say that in a real fight, the traditional version of martial arts will be ineffective. Sport is the foundation, competitive practice, endurance, these are the things without which it is impossible to get a combat skill. The natives of ordinary martial arts looked quite confident, and were easily trained in combat techniques. As for karate and kung fu, they looked good from the outside, but everything ended as soon as sparring began. But it should be noted that there was no need to talk about high professionalism in these martial arts in our circle (although in my life I saw an example of how one of the young people in the train managed to resist several attackers using karate skills - - approx. ed.). And here again, the guys from boxing, sambo and wrestling looked more confident, since training in these disciplines, at that time, was much stronger. As for talking about fighting moments in martial arts, in my opinion, the talk of some martial arts schools that boxing, wrestling, is just a sport is a manifestation of incompetence.
Now, of course, the picture has changed, more information has appeared, such styles as sanda, kudo, kyokushinkai, Brazilian jiu-jitsu have appeared in our country, but I am talking about specific moments with the participation of martial arts known at that time.
And, in general, it should be remembered that bad or good martial arts does not happen, you should be clearly aware of why you are doing it, what goals you are pursuing.
