Nail Izmailov: We are building a self-sufficiency system for Spartak
Observer " Soviet sports"Met with the vice-president of Spartak.The Soviet Sport observer met with Spartak vice-president Nail Izmailov and asked him about the economic and marketing components of the club.
“WORKED AND STUDYED”
- Have you really been a fan of Spartak since you were seven years old?
- Yes, I’ve been sick since seven. I started going to matches in 1989. I am a Muscovite myself. Both grandfathers in the Great Patriotic War defended the capital, served here. One was an artilleryman, a crew commander, the second a sapper. After the war they remained in Moscow. And my parents were born here.
- Were you actively sick?
- I attended matches regularly. On-site including.
- According to the hard version?
- According to everyone. I wasn’t part of the fan community, but I know many of them.
- How did you make your way from a fan to the vice-president of Spartak?
- I worked and studied a lot (smiles). I started working in my third year of college. Experience is very diverse - from retail, restaurant business, entertainment to construction, investment and banking. Then I received an invitation from Leonid Arnoldovich Fedun. “Spartak” is involved in the large project “Tushino-2018”, which involves the development of the Tushino field. Several functional clusters are planned. Sports is the Otkritie Arena, a new club base, a multifunctional indoor palace, which will be located next to the stadium, where matches, competitions in other sports, concerts, exhibitions, and conferences will be held. Shopping and office centers, hotels, a children's entertainment complex, schools, kindergartens, clinics, and housing will be built. Actually a city. There is a lot of talk about how all this is to enrich investors. But construction costs are expected to be offset by income from home sales. Constant income from other facilities will be directed to the club to ensure its stable functioning. This will allow Spartak to feel confident financially over time and lose absolute dependence on the fortune of shareholders.
- So you are building a self-sufficiency system for the club?
- Yes, that's right. The same system is being built by the London Arsenal - the Highbury and Queensland Road project. The Brooklyn Nets basketball center with its megamall is a similar model. The club, if it wants to live and develop normally, needs constant replenishment budget. Relying only on shareholder money is ineffective.
- How did you get involved in this?
- I had experience in investment activities, I did this in one very large financial group. Housing, commercial real estate, mutual funds... I know this area professionally, which is probably why I received an invitation to Spartak four years ago.
Have you watched the Hollywood film “The Big Short” about the 2008 crisis? If so, you must have understood the dialogues, which consisted of 70 percent banking terms.
- There is no time left for cinema, work takes 24 hours a day. But since you advise, I’ll take a look.
DISCHARGE FOR RESERVE
- You were called to work in construction and real estate, but you are in the vice presidency of a football club. How so?
- The club and “Tushino-2018” are a single whole. It all started with the stadium, during the construction of which I led a kind of management company, that is, I oversaw the construction as a future user of the facility. Now the strategic goal is to create an autonomous life support system for Spartak, to generate income through new and development of old opportunities of the club, stadium and territory.
- Are the purchase and sale of players included in this system?
- Ideally, both parts, sports and infrastructure, should be profitable. Players are an asset that is bound to grow in value. True, so far few people in Russia have been able to achieve this. Vertical "academy - youth team“Spartak-2 is the basis,” led by Sergei Rodionov, exists. But we often hear reproaches that our students go to other clubs, open up there, and play better than us. This means there is something to add.
- Sergey Galitsky said that he used the classic stadium cladding made of travertine stone, because bright modern materials tend to fade. I immediately remembered Otkritie Arena.
- Our cladding will not fade, everything is done with reserve. In addition, there are more important parameters. For example, the functionality of the stadium, convenience and comfort, safety and logistics. Or the place where it was built. Construction of arenas for the 2018 World Cup is currently underway. In every case, the expectation is made that the stadium will become the center of human attraction, the center of sports and commercial life, the venue for mass events non-stop? Are there those who evaluate these investments professionally and with perspective? Entire areas with transport and other infrastructure should be developed around the arenas. An illustrative example is England, London, where the rise in real estate prices in football areas in recent years is higher than in other non-football areas. Tushino 2018 has not yet been built, but around the stadium people are already jogging, walking their dogs, and riding bicycles. Although the nearest residential buildings are on the other side of the busy Volokolamsk Highway.
- Those who saw the arenas of the Portuguese Euro 2004, which are not in demand today, will agree with you. But let's return to the Spartak vertical. Is it really difficult for a club academy to maintain the pace of “one student per year for the base”?
- Let me make a reservation right away: I am not responsible for the football part of Spartak. This is the patrimony of Sergei Rodionov. I will answer only because I took part in the development of some innovations. The desired “productivity” of the club system was written down on paper. Coaches of all departments face this task. As of this year, it is essentially regulated. Trainers will be rewarded for their implementation, and bonuses will be clearly outlined. Before there was no systematization. It is the replenishment of the base, and not a place in youth competitions or in the FNL, that is most important in preparing the reserve.
TV REVENUE IS ONLY 4 PERCENT OF THE BUDGET
- What are your responsibilities at Spartak?
- The entire business component and the tools that help ensure it. That is, a security department, a fan club, commercial and IT departments, a public relations department, a single technical center that ensures the operation of the stadium, the Academy in Sokolniki, the base in Tarasovka and the construction of a new base in Tushino.
- Are you on the board of directors of the club?
- No, I am on the board of Spartak.
- How football business different from anyone else?
- Modern football is a huge business, associated with the passion and excitement of millions. The profitability of such a business can be very high if the level of management of all participants is appropriate. Globally, it is no different from many others. It's a symbiosis different types businesses, from retail and ticketing to real estate. The main product produced is human emotions. They should be such that the fan is pleased to realize his involvement in the club. In any marketing strategy football club There are three pillars - sporting success, the number of fans and their activity, and the club's budget. They are not directly dependent, but very noticeably influence each other.
- How did Spartak’s 13-year absence of titles affect the number of fans?
- We recently launched a large study on this topic, including in the regions. We have developed a methodology, we want to understand the dynamics. As regularly as the number of our subscribers on social networks, merchandising, ticket program, we want to analyze the change in the number of fans. And not only in quantitative, but in qualitative terms. I don’t know yet whether there have been fewer of them over the past 13 years. But there are results of an English study. A person begins to get sick between the ages of 6 and 12 years and after that, in 90 percent of cases, he does not change his club habits. The main things that influence the choice of a club are friends, family, environment; then, by a large margin, the team’s sporting successes; in third place is some item you like: a scarf, a pen, a T-shirt, that is, merchandising. “Liverpool” has not been the champion of England for 26 years, but it is unlikely that it has lost much in the growth of fans.
We understand: there is a danger of losing young people due to lack of titles. We are trying to compensate for this. The Spartak Kids program, for example, makes the visit of children and families with children to our stadium memorable and enjoyable. The family section is almost full at every match. Another example is the enormous popularity of promotions with our partner Nissan to recruit children to the Spartak Academy. This was done in different cities. Luck could smile on two or three boys, no more. But in Krasnodar, for example, 2,500 parents came in the wild heat, and the event lasted for several hours!
- Is it possible to compare the economy of Spartak with leading foreign clubs? Or are these different worlds?
- The filling of the budget is radically different if we talk about the top leagues in Europe. There, revenue from the sale of television rights is about 30 percent. Spartak has less than four. Despite the fact that match day revenue, that is, the total profit on the day of the match, is similar for us - about 25 percent of the budget.
- It’s strange: the clubs have pennies from television, but they don’t bother the RFPL at all about this.
- Our television shows football for free, nothing can be done about it.
“Spartak” CANNOT LEAVE THE POOL
- How are the prices for tickets and subscriptions determined?
- After the opening of the stadium, we focused on numbers previous season. It doesn’t matter where you play: emotions are sold, and they don’t depend on the arena. Comfort, convenience, safety, parking, food may change, but the stadium itself is just a box that, if used correctly, can turn into an effective business tool. Therefore, we took the history of pricing in Luzhniki and Cherkizovo as a starting point, increasing the added value by a number VIP categories. Changing the price for ordinary fans would be disrespectful to them.
- Don't change - optimize.
- That’s why the ticket program is being analyzed now. Based on the dynamics, in each segment we will be able to regulate prices in a targeted manner. Of course, we will take into account the team’s results and the fans’ expectations before the season.
- Then you should sell season tickets for half the season. After all, expectations before autumn and spring are often different.
- Dynamic pricing is also in our plans. When not only the result is taken into account, but also the lead time of sales, day, game time, weather, etc. There are difficulties, but we already had experience in selling season tickets for a series of matches. It is possible that we will return to it.
- Does the lack of a clear calendar for the season bother you? Sometimes the day and time of the start of the match is determined almost a week before the game.
- Here we are hostages of television. The unpredictable program grid dictates conditions for us too. Postponements of matches for European Cup participants are the same. In England, the calendar is clear for a year in advance; there even grandfathers went to matches according to the current schedule. The British keep traditions, but here we have no consistency. Although the first shoots have appeared: we see how people in the new season are happy to purchase subscriptions to their favorite places, know their neighbors, and communicate with them in a friendly manner. This is important for football. When a person comes to the arena, he feels a sense of belonging to his favorite team and has an influence on what is happening through its support. This is especially valuable, it is one of those components that allows the team to win.
- And yet it’s not clear. 4 percent from TV is ridiculous money. If you left the pool, you would get more.
- To leave the pool means to destroy the entire component of the League. “Real” and “Manchester United” do not leave the pool, which means that everything is not so simple. Besides, we're all in the same boat in a way.
DUMPING CORRUPTS
- Why do you keep prices high for guest tickets? In return, your fans are also sold expensive tickets.
- We do not raise the price artificially. In similar sectors it is the same for strangers and our fans.
- If both clubs made prices lower, the Spartak sector would return match would be fuller.
- Direct exchange is impossible; such a practice does not exist anywhere in the world. In addition, prices for guests and hosts for identical seats should not differ according to the regulations. We offer a service that costs 1000 rubles. The price of the service at another stadium may be different depending on convenience, comfort and other factors. Artificially lowering prices corrupts the consumer. You can give out tickets for free, but it is unlikely that in the long run this will attract fans and teach them to support the team in all ways.
- How many season tickets have you sold for this season?
- About 15 thousand. 30 percent arena occupancy.
- “Spartak” is a self-sustaining club?
- I would say - the closest to self-sufficiency among Russian clubs.
- Are there any problems with financial fair play?
- We were allowed to participate in European competitions, which means no. UEFA allows a certain budget deficit if a number of conditions are met. They look at such details as the relevance of income, for example: the cost of advertising sponsorship contracts should not exceed the market value.
- How has the commercial potential of the new stadium been realized?
There is room for growth. We want to make, for example, free Wi-Fi in the stands so that fans have access to the club’s mobile application. It will include news, photo and video content, ticket services, the opportunity to buy goods in the club store, delivery of drinks and food to your seat in the stands, locating yourself and searching for friends at the stadium through your personal account. We are finishing the project with four cellular operators; a stable 4G signal should appear in the arena in December. We expect to launch an official online service for the resale of Ticket Exchange tickets by fans to each other. If a person is unable to go to the match, but has a season ticket or ticket, he will be able to officially resell the opportunity to visit the game. This is popular in England and Germany. Despite the fact that Spartak sells about 70 percent of all tickets and season tickets online.
BEST MUSEUM IN THE WORLD
- How else do you fight for an audience?
- In different ways. We organize children's football camps, hold school tournaments - 15 thousand people came to the final of one of them, which was held in schools in the North-West Administrative District of Moscow this year. We use the power of media. We work closely with the fan base, about whom we know a lot, from who they come to the stadium with, to their gastronomic preferences. Happy holidays to them. People are pleased to receive a personal video greeting and an invitation to a match from a team player on their birthday. We connect club partners to the loyalty program. We have been using a customer relationship management (CRM) system for a long time. It includes a ticket program, access control, loyalty program, merchandising, monitoring relationships with our partners, catering, and so on.
We interact with charitable foundations; we recently launched a program with a fund to fight leukemia, with plans to connect organizations that help sick children, orphans and low-income families. We help people with disabilities attend matches. Our new employee Alexander Sergeev, who himself uses a wheelchair, is doing a lot of work in this direction.
- Do you have enough non-football events in the arena?
- Presentations, conferences, test drives, children's events are ongoing. But we are ready and want to do more. Two concerts are planned for next season. More often it is fraught with consequences for the field: we cover it with platforms, but in our climate this is not very beneficial for the grass.
- 13 thousand rubles for a modest autumn jacket in a Spartak store - isn’t it a little expensive?
- We are dependent on the manufacturer, our margin is small.
- Are you planning to take the Spartak brand to the international level?
- Mainly due to promotion mobile application. Open fan clubs? But why, given modern Internet capabilities? But what we are planning is a network of football academy branches. Bonnies will appear in Russian cities, and we want to make one in China. And open a club office there. In Hong Kong or Shanghai, negotiations are still ongoing. This will allow us to establish a dialogue with a huge country and, possibly, sponsors. There is no prospect of moving to Europe, where the leading clubs have a strong position; we will not be able to compete with them. Our fans already get emotions from a distance, watching matches on the Internet. A friend from Los Angeles went to a game in Moscow, having calmly bought a ticket in America through an online service and was impressed by the comfort, safety and atmosphere at the Spartak game.
- The club museum leaves a strong impression, especially on the technical side. How much did it cost?
- More than 200 million rubles. We have been working on this project for almost three years. I think we have created the best club football museum in the world.
- What is the situation with the monument to Cherenkov?
- “Spartak” is in constant contact with his family and city authorities. If everything goes as planned, we will announce a fundraiser. The club is ready to pay the cost of the monument. But the fans also deserved such a privilege - to pay for the monument to Cherenkov, thereby paying tribute to a great player and a great man.
After the completion of the first part of the season, the deputy chairman of the board of directors of Spartak answered questions from a Match TV correspondent.
- Spartak improved significantly before the break and shares second or third place with Zenit. But will the gap from Lokomotiv allow you to aim for more?
If we managed to radically change the situation in the table now, why not continue in the second round? Time will show.
- What means were used to restore it? nervous system after 0:7 in Liverpool?
We gathered at the hotel after the game with members of the board of directors, discussed the match and went to bed. These are the means.
- Is everything quiet, calm?
What's the point of making noise? Yes, it hurts, it’s unpleasant. We did not have serious experience of participating in European cups, which was confirmed by the match with Liverpool. There was a reason to think about what we were doing wrong. Certain conclusions were drawn, as the game with CSKA showed. It is clear that the high stages of the main European club tournament are not yet the most achievable goal for us. And the task before the season was formulated as follows: worthy participation in the Champions League.
Alexander Selikhov / Photo: © RIA Novosti/Alexey Filippov
- Was what happened worthy?
If you don't take into account these 0:7 - yes. To qualify for the spring part of the Europa League is worthy. You cannot set unrealistic goals for yourself, because this has the opposite effect: realizing that they cannot be fulfilled, people lower the requirements for themselves and stop fulfilling them altogether.
- But there is another point of view: you would have been forgiven for 0:7 if not for two draws with the outsider Maribor.
Both are offensive. But they are also experiences that haven’t happened for a long time. As well as 5:1 against Sevilla.
- Give Spartak a rating for the first part of the season.
- “Good”, judging by the current standings RFPL. There were a lot of bumps though.
- Of all the rivals of Russian clubs in the Europa League, is Spartak the most serious?
Didn't she work?
In the summer, according to my information, the proposals and conclusions of the selection department were ignored by the coach. Who will look for candidates now?
Your information is incorrect. Maybe someone wanted to see problems in Spartak, but in reality there were none. They worked closely, in tandem. And someone on the side tried to put unnecessary rumors into rotation. In fact, the mechanism remains the same: some candidates are proposed by the coach, others by the selection department. Then - discussion and choice. Within budget.
- How big is it?
I won’t name the amount, of course. But it is important to remember about financial fair play.
- Is he pushing you too hard?
Very. A cruel tool. It limits, but also encourages you to earn more.
- Which lines are priority for amplification?
Defense for sure.
- Will Taski leave?
Taking into account the spring part of the European Cups and the upcoming matches of the Russian Cup, I would not want to lose anyone from the current squad. It’s too early to talk about the rest.
- Is the significant amount of compensation stipulated in Promes’ contract capable of protecting Spartak from his departure?
There really is such a sum. But we must understand that this is not a dogma that excludes the negotiation aspect.
Quincy Promes “destroys” Sevilla after a great individual pass and an accurate shot on target / Photo: © Vasily Ponomarev / Edgar Breshchanov / Sportbox.ru
- Have the club received any official offers to purchase Promes?
On at the moment No.
How true is Spartak's interest in midfielder Patrick Twumasi from Astana, voiced in the press?
There is no interest, we are not considering purchasing it. And it’s unlikely that it would become a gain. Another information “stuffing”, of which there have already been many.
- And yet, once again about selection. Who will lead it?
The final decisions, like last summer, rest with the head coach. Naturally, within the budget.
- It was the same in the summer. But Spartak's selection policy smacked of controversy.
Perhaps it seemed so from the outside. But there is centralization, interactions are streamlined, everything will go as usual.
There were complaints about the behind-the-scenes celebration of the championship. A small hall for our own people - and no fans.
There was a celebration for the fans at the stadium when the championship cup was presented. This was how it was originally planned. 45 thousand people came, people ran onto the field, thanked the team, and the team thanked them. I haven’t heard of the championship being celebrated anywhere else on such a grand scale. Everyone was happy. And the presentation of medals took place in a more intimate atmosphere, which is normal.
- How many medals were there, by the way? Really four hundred? Didn't this devalue the champion's valor?
Much less. We considered it necessary to thank the club employees who gave years of their lives to this championship with medals. Quite natural, in my opinion. It would be wrong to do otherwise: victory includes a piece of the work of everyone who works at Spartak. We definitely didn’t give out medals left and right, each of them was deserved.
- Why was the restaurant at the Spartak stadium rented out to CSKA fans?
Well, this is not the same steppe at all. It's not really like that. Was children's day birthday with a football theme. A girl who is a fan of Spartak. Children and parents came, supporting different clubs. Some are wearing a Barcelona jersey, some are wearing an Ajax scarf, some are wearing a CSKA uniform. The strange thing is not that this happened, but that we are discussing it at all.
- How did you feel when you read the interview with the Spartak bus driver?
Sorry, but I didn't read the interview with the bus driver.
- Will fire shows at Spartak home matches remain the norm?
Pyrotechnics are prohibited in stadiums, which means this cannot be the norm. We do everything possible to prevent this from happening. Even though it's not easy. At the match with CSKA, for example, the search was carried out by police cadets. It didn't help.
- Do you think fans have the right to demand influence on the club without being its shareholders?
The fans are our support, we always listen to them. Moreover, we will soon create a platform for fans to vote on certain issues. WITH feedback in the form of answers to their questions. I hope it will work by the end of the season. We live and work for them. Of course, their opinion interests us.
You spoke about the emphasis on your own students. Are there quantitative “orders”, and if so, what are they?
If the world of football worked according to regulations, the viewer would not be interested in watching this. The installation of young people into the foundation must take place naturally. If at least one of them manages to join the main team during the season, it will be nice.
- Do you often attend Spartak-2 and youth matches?
I don’t often, Sergei Rodionov comes to every game. Doesn't miss a single one.
- And Carrera?
Both reserve teams train in Tarasovka, they are constantly in sight of the head coach.
Why does a foreign coach need Spartak youth? A long, tedious process. And the result is needed here and now.
Not really. The goals set by the board of directors for this season: worthy participation in the Champions League, getting into the top three at the Russian Championship and winning the National Cup. This allows us to raise our own students to the level of regular players.
- Do you want to say that Spartak is not faced with the task of defending the championship?
It has been put before us for many years. And we wandered with this task throughout the entire table, except for the very top. Finally, the understanding came: forward movement is required. And four years ago the strategy changed. Since then, we have been developing this way - progressively. For four years we cooked a mess with an axe, built and polished the team until we got one that wants, can, and does what we set out to do. Because only progressive development provides the team with a future. Academy graduates should also develop within the framework of this idea. They need game practice in the first team - otherwise there will be no progress.
Massimo Carrera during the match between Spartak and FC Spartak-Nalchik / Photo: © Edgar Breshchanov / Vasily Ponomarev / Sportbox.ru
- What form of reporting does the head coach have to the club at Spartak?
Once every six months, all coaches of all teams report to the board of directors. Including Carrera. The growth dynamics of players, their potential, possible errors coaching staff, conclusions from these mistakes. Standard permanent procedure for several years.
- Does the board of directors only listen or set tasks too?
Of course, both.
That is, Carrera only once every six months has the opportunity to hear: “Massimo, something is storming you along the distance - sometimes 0:7, sometimes 3:0; instability, however"?
Sergey Rodionov and I visit Tarasovka at least once or twice a week. So to hear something like this head coach maybe much more often.
- What are the reserves for increasing home attendance?
It’s difficult to come up with something revolutionary. We should rather talk about strengthening those areas that we have been working on for a long time and, by the way, successfully. Quality of the game - one, work in the media space - two, improvement of service for fans on match days - three. Much has been done - and much remains to be done.
- How difficult will the World Championship, the matches of which will be held at the Otkritie Arena, make life more difficult for Spartak?
It will complicate things - not entirely true. There is a lot of technical work ahead, and the regular activities of the club’s services, which are currently not taking place on match days, will be interrupted for some time. We will have to take into account a completely different contingent of fans, requiring a different approach. We will give the stadium to the organizing committee, then return it, adapt it to club life and continue to operate it. On the plus side, during the World Cup the arena will be officially named “Spartak Stadium”. This is good advertising for the club and society.
- Is the problem of agent clans noticeable for Spartak?
If there is such a problem, it does not affect Spartak. What does an agent need? Good contract for the mentee and commission. We work with different agents, Russian and foreign, and we don’t bias things in one direction.
- How many of Marco Trabucchi’s players are playing in Spartak now?
Marco is one of those who participates in Spartak transfer deals as an intermediary. Without the slightest tilt in his direction. The club definitely does not have “basic” agents.
Denis Glushakov and Massimo Carrera / Photo: © RIA Novosti/Alexander Wilf
- Were you shocked when you read Glushakov’s statement: “Carrera is not a top coach”?
Headline - yes. The essence of what was said is no, because the phrase was taken out of context. The most important thing is that the captain and coach have an excellent relationship, and no amount of headlines can change that.
Photo: RIA Novosti/Vitaly Belousov, RIA Novosti/Alexey Filippov, Vasily Ponomarev/Edgar Breshchanov/Sportbox.ru,
— The owner of Spartak, Leonid Fedun, recently made a proposal to carry out a number of reforms in Russian football. What work is being done by the club to implement these proposals?
— We are now preparing letters to all leagues: RFPL, FNL and PFL, sending an appeal to the Ministry of Sports and hope that all our proposals will be considered at the next executive committee.
— Why change the usual structure so radically? popular game?
— Several goals are being pursued here, because the proposed reforms are specifically aimed at improving certain components of the game. But I will highlight the main priorities: improving the quality of football itself and increasing spectator interest in domestic championship matches. This is why the proposal was put forward. Thus, viewers will have the opportunity to watch the game with their own eyes in comfortable, safe arenas, and the quality of the television picture will also increase, which, in our opinion, will affect the overall growth of interest in the RFPL.
— What about reforming the gaming grid? It turns out that the current calendar is still not satisfactory Russian clubs?
— Yes, indeed, this story repeats itself every year, every season we try to move games from cold regions to the summer, but so far this has been difficult. I would like such issues to be automatically taken into account when creating the calendar; it is with this approach that a lot of difficulties will be avoided for both clubs and their fans.
— Your club also received a proposal to introduce a mandatory bonus system for children’s coaches who trained players for the RFPL, and to tighten the current limit on foreign players. It turns out that Spartak stood up for the young Russian football players?
— It is important to understand here that spot work will not fundamentally solve the problem. Unfortunately, even if the limit is tightened, new young stars with Russian passports will not appear overnight. So, in addition to introducing a limit, we need to pay attention to children’s coaches, football schools, youth and youth competitions. And then, having carried out reforms in all these areas, we will be able to get the first results and increase the number of potential players for the Russian national team - it’s no secret that today the coaching staff has the choice national team not that big.
— And yet your proposals seem a little harsh, especially for clubs that do not consider themselves among the elite of Russian football. Are there any fears that your colleagues will not accept your project?
— Yes, we are prepared for the fact that many clubs will not react to our reforms with much joy. After all, objectively, except for the top teams, few people will find these proposals interesting. But let's look at the situation objectively: we all pursue different goals. For some, the main task is to represent the region in the RFPL, for others it is to show good football, develop schools, represent the country in European arenas. But we are talking about a global reform of all football in Russia, so sooner or later everyone will come to a common understanding.
- Nail Izmailov: “Our goal is to make the Russian championship better and more popular”
“After 0:7 at Anfield there was deathly silence in the dressing room”
— You talked about goals and repeatedly noted that Spartak will continue to fight for the championship. But don’t you think that the club lost an unacceptable number of points at the start of the season?
— We lost a lot, I won’t deny it, and overall we started the season very poorly. There were reasons for this - both external and internal, subjective and objective. It was a difficult moment, but thanks to the guys who found the strength to pull themselves together and finish this year with dignity. We are in the top three with Zenit, so I will regard this interim result as positive.
— In the fall, a whole information campaign developed around Spartak, mostly with a pronounced negative connotation. How did you manage with thiscope with?
“The whole point is that the situation in which we find ourselves is definitely beneficial to someone.” To someone outside the club.
Internally—all the staff, coaches, players, and administration—such stories made it difficult to work productively. We held several meetings, gathered at the base in Tarasovka, in my office, talked a lot with Massimo Carrera, with everyone coaching staff and together we developed a mechanism that allowed us to unite.
In addition, we found the strength to regain lost motivation and believe that, despite the gap from competitors, the team is capable of fighting for a second championship.
— Have you determined the reason for the loss of motivation?
- This is psychology. As people say, we went through fire, water and copper pipes, and with them fame, prizes, medals and recognition. Alas, the team was not ready to win over and over again. But there are also positive aspects: having found themselves in a stressful situation, the guys became stronger. The latest rounds of the RFPL are clear proof of this.
— How do you assess the results in the Champions League? It’s unlikely that the score is 0:7 in final match group stage did the club management consider it satisfactory?
“Today, for our team, this is primarily a tournament that allows us to gain invaluable experience of performing on the international stage and playing with famous opponents. For many guys, such matches happened for the first time in their lives. With this invaluable practice, players will continue to progress and grow. I assess the club’s overall performance in the Champions League as positive, and even before the start of the season, the task was clearly formulated: to play well in the Champions League. Decent does not mean reaching the next round or getting into the Europa League. Worthy means performing to the limit of your capabilities, making the right conclusions and improving the overall quality of football.
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— You were with the team in Liverpool. What was the atmosphere in the locker room after the defeat?
— There was deathly silence. Of course, we were all hurt - such defeats are not so easy to survive. But, I repeat, for all of us it was first and foremost an experience, so whether we lost 0:1 or 0:7, for the tournament situation the result is the same. In Liverpool, the team came out to play to win, to fight for the right to continue playing in the tournament - in such a situation, it’s either hit or miss.
— Weren’t you worried about the psychological state of the players? Many experts said that, for example, Alexander Selikhov should not be bet on the match against CSKA.
— Sasha, although young, is a very promising, high-quality and professional player. Still, we saw the match with CSKA - he, and the whole team, were able to redeem themselves for those seven goals in England.
— After the victory over CSKA, Leonid Fedun said that the team would fully make amends only if it beat the leading Lokomotiv with a score of 4:0. It's a joke? Or do you really believe that it is still possible to catch up with the railway workers?
— Of course, everything is possible, we are the creators of our own success. Without looking back at the opponent, we will take points in each of the remaining ten matches. So in the spring, every game is like a final.
“Talks about Promes leaving are irrelevant”
— You will re-sign very quicklysigned a contract with Georgiy Dzhikia. Playerwas so interested in extending the cooperation, or was the club management fueled by rumors about his possible departure to Zenit?
— Fortunately, or maybe unfortunately for many, the team does not work based on rumors and gossip. We live in the real world and in real facts. Dzhikia is a talented guy, he has proven his right to play, and we need him without any doubt. In addition, we discussed the option of extending and increasing payments in case of successful actions on the field a year ago, when he first came to Spartak.
— It’s no secret that in the summer Massimo Carrera told you the names of those players with whom he wants to work. Does such a top list from a trainer exist now?
— I would like to clarify the following right away: . And by the way, in the summer, despite all the rumors and speculation that enveloped the club, they acted the same way. There is a wish from the head coach - these are positions and names, and there are proposals from the selection department. By putting all these lists together, we begin the discussion. But believe me, the last word always remains with the head coach, he gets to play and work with them, so the entire prerogative to choose the players is his.
- Nail Izmailov: “We live in a world of real facts”
— Which market will you focus your attention on?
— These are equally the RFPL and the European championships. We look not only at Russian players, we also need strong foreign players.
— Have you identified the lines that need strengthening?
— Of course, but I won’t tell you all the details of future transactions yet. I want to say something else: in addition to attracting highly qualified football players, we really want to develop our own youth, rely on our students, so we will try to strengthen the main team by attracting them.
— What is the situation with existing contracts? In the summer, Serdar Taski wanted to leave the club, and even now he honestly admits that he has not yet made a final decision. Will his contract be re-signed?
— He has a contract with Spartak until the end of the current season, the final decision will be made later, during the final negotiations.
- ANDdo they have any basisIs there talk that Quincy Promes might leave the team and go to England?
- Not at the moment. And, in general, I really don’t want to destroy the champion lineup, which is quite capable of repeating and surpassing its last year’s result.
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“Liverpool cannot forget the performance of our fans”
— Last year you entered into a dispute with Zenit for the title of the most popular club countries, and, according to the results of the VTsIOM survey, St. Petersburg residents won. Did you request new data?
— At VTsIOM? We don't need this. We receive data at our stadium, at away matches. Our fans are with us always and everywhere. Everything here is obvious and clear.
— The club is actively working with fans. Is the loyalty system for season ticket holders justified?
— By and large, we were able to understand the full taste of this program, launched several years ago, only now, during the Champions League matches. The system works: many fans used their accumulated points to purchase real tickets to European matches as a priority, without spending a penny. In addition, this approach cuts off the air for speculators. The fans themselves rated this system very positively.
— Is Spartak fighting for a new audience?
— Of course, the club’s success in the Russian and international arenas helps attract fans.
— What plans for the development of the club are Spartak making?
— Our priority is to improve the children’s and youth program. It is in young talents that the future of both Spartak and the Russian national team lies. Therefore, we pay great attention to this. But we also plan to expand our borders, in particular we are working on entering the Chinese market. We plan to develop football in this country, which will be carried out under the Spartak emblem.
— After the incident in Maribor, there were no special complaints from the red-and-white fans regarding the issue of discipline. How did you achieve this?
— We are in constant contact with representatives of fan movements. Both players, coaches and club management hold meetings with them.
— At the Champions League matches, fans of the Moscow club showed off their colorful performances.
— Performances performed by Spartak fans in Europe are still remembered with a shudder. I met with the president and director of Liverpool, they cannot forget the image and inscription on the banner that was hung at the match in Moscow. This made an indelible impression on the British delegation.
— Does the club provide any assistance to fans in creating such banners?
— We help in the matter of interaction with any government agencies, but the fans finance the performance themselves. We are very grateful to them for this. There are no analogues to this in Russia. The performances of our fans are considered not only the best in Russia, but also one of the brightest in Europe.
- Nail Izmailov: “Klopp still cannot forget the performance of our fans”
— How can you comment on the incident with the rocket launcher that occurred in Maribor?
“This case cannot be attributed either to the shortcomings of Russian fans or to problems on the part of Spartak.” Screening system and general conditions The organization of the match in Slovenia was at a low level; I had never seen anything like it in Europe before. Despite the fact that everything was terrible there, the UEFA (Union of European Football Associations) inspector - RT) gave them a good rating.
— What exactly were the problems?
— Due to problems with the access system, there were one and a half times more Russian fans at the match compared to the quota - the organizers let absolutely all the fans through, and then simply locked them out of the arena. How this could happen is worth asking the management of Maribor.
— Did Sevilla do the right thing by not allowing Russian fans to attend the Champions League match?
- according to the letter of the law - the club received a ban from UEFA on allowing fans from Russia into the stands and began selling personalized tickets in order to in every possible way exclude all kinds of violations of this decree. As a result, even those who obtained tickets through resellers could not pass control at the stadium.
— Don’t you get the impression that Spartak is under closer public attention due to the approaching 2018 World Cup and stories foreign media about cruel Russian fans?
— “Spartak” is a leader in everything: in football, organization, fan movement, business and work with academies. Naturally, because of this, there is a certain subjectivity in relation to the club, attempts are being made to harm Russia in general and us in particular.
Take, for example, the incident with accusations of racism against the captain of the Spartak youth team. We will defend his rights at the meeting of the UEFA disciplinary commission, as we are confident of his innocence.
- Where does such confidence come from?
“He doesn’t speak English well enough to say such rude words to a person of a different skin color.”
— Is this connected with not the most friendly attitude towards Russian sports?
— I think parallels can be drawn, because Russia is now looked at with a special squint.
“The stadium will undergo changes before the World Cup matches”
— In 2017, the Otkritie Arena stadium hosted the Confederations Cup games. Did FIFA have any complaints?
— We work closely with the Russia 2018 organizing committee and FIFA; we received high marks for hosting the tournament matches. The reason for this can be considered the extensive experience in organizing competitions of the high level. Tushino employs people with extensive experience in organizing tournaments, which, perhaps, none of the RFPL teams has.
— Before the Confederations Cup, the stadium was modified, in particular, the number of seats for journalists was increased. Will similar work be carried out before the World Cup?
- That's right, we will need to start rotating the seats again. At FIFA, we will again increase the working areas for media representatives, the so-called hospitality area, and expand the areas for restaurants. There will also be changes in the logistics of the stadium; teams will take a different route onto the field. But you shouldn’t think that such works will have a negative impact on ordinary viewers. The ticket program has been launched and is being successfully implemented, including for matches at our stadium.
— Most recently, Lokomotiv President Ilya Gerkus said that the club was seriously thinking about installing a retractable roof over the stadium. Have you ever had such thoughts?
— There will be no reconstruction at our stadium in the near future. By the way, we considered the option with a roof when developing the Opening of the Arena project, but have not yet returned to this issue. Now there are simply no necessary resources, it is very expensive, and Spartak is already not in the most favorable position regarding the financial principle of fair play.
Deputy Chairman of the Board of Directors of the capital's Spartak, Nail Izmailov, in an interview with RT, explained what goals the leadership of the red and white pursues, proposing the RFPL to carry out fundamental reforms. He also shared his transfer plans, told how the team managed to get out of the crisis situation, and revealed details of the relationship with the fans.
“Our goal is to make the Russian championship better and more popular”
The owner of Spartak, Leonid Fedun, recently made a proposal to carry out a number of reforms in Russian football. What work is being done by the club to implement these proposals?
We are now preparing letters to all leagues: RFPL, FNL and PFL, sending an appeal to the Ministry of Sports and hope that all our proposals will be considered at the next executive committee.
- Why change the usual structure of a popular game so radically?
Several goals are being pursued here, because the proposed reforms are specifically aimed at improving certain components of the game. But I will highlight the main priorities: improving the quality of football itself and increasing spectator interest in domestic championship matches. For this purpose, a proposal was put forward to reduce the participants in the national championship to 14 teams. Thus, viewers will have the opportunity to watch the game with their own eyes in comfortable, safe arenas, and the quality of the television picture will also increase, which, in our opinion, will affect the overall growth of interest in the RFPL.
What about reforming the gaming grid? It turns out that the current calendar still does not suit Russian clubs?
Yes, indeed, this story repeats itself every year, every season we try to move games from cold regions to the summer, but so far this has been difficult. I would like such issues to be automatically taken into account when creating the calendar - it is with this approach that a lot of difficulties will be avoided for both clubs and their fans.
Your club also received a proposal to introduce a mandatory bonus system for children's coaches who trained players for the RFPL, and to tighten the current limit on foreign players. It turns out that Spartak came to the defense of young Russian football players?
It is important to understand here that spot work will not fundamentally solve the problem. Unfortunately, even if the limit is tightened, new young stars with Russian passports will not appear overnight. So, in addition to introducing a limit, we need to pay attention to children's coaches, football schools, youth and youth competitions. And then, having carried out reforms in all these areas, we will be able to get the first results and increase the number of potential players for the Russian national team - it is no secret that today the coaching staff of the national team does not have much choice.
And yet, your proposals seem a little harsh, especially for clubs that do not consider themselves among the elite of Russian football. Are there any fears that your colleagues will not accept your project?
Yes, we are prepared for the fact that many clubs will not be particularly happy about our reforms. After all, objectively, except for the top teams, few people will find these proposals interesting. But let's look at the situation objectively: we all pursue different goals. For some, the main task is to represent the region in the RFPL, for others it is to show good football, develop schools, and represent the country in European arenas. But we are talking about a global reform of all football in Russia, so sooner or later everyone will come to a common understanding.
“After 0:7 at Anfield there was deathly silence in the dressing room”
You talked about goals and repeatedly noted that Spartak will continue to fight for the championship, but don’t you think that the club lost an unacceptable number of points at the start of the season?
We lost a lot, I won’t deny it, and overall we started the season very poorly. There were reasons for this, both external and internal, subjective and objective. It was a difficult moment, but thanks to the guys who found the strength to pull themselves together and finish this year with dignity. We are in the top three, we have an equal number of points with Zenit, so I will regard this interim result as positive.
In the fall, a whole information campaign developed around Spartak, mostly with a pronounced negative connotation, how did you manage to cope with this?
The whole point is that the situation in which we found ourselves is absolutely beneficial to someone. Someone who is outside the club.
Internally, for all employees, coaches, players and administration, such stories prevented them from working productively. We held several meetings, gathered at the base in Tarasovka, in my office, talked a lot with Massimo Carrera, with the entire coaching staff, and together developed a mechanism that allowed us to unite.
In addition, we found the strength to regain lost motivation and believe that, despite the lead from competitors, the team is capable of fighting for a second championship.
- Have you determined the reason for the loss of motivation?
This is psychology. As people say, we went through “fire, water and copper pipes” and with them fame, prizes, medals and recognition. Alas, the team was not ready to win over and over again. But there are also positive aspects: having found themselves in a stressful situation, the guys became stronger. The latest rounds of the RFPL are clear proof of this.
How do you assess the results in the Champions League? It’s unlikely that the club management called 0:7 in the final match of the group stage satisfactory?
Today, for our team, this is primarily a tournament that allows us to gain invaluable experience of performing on the international stage and playing with famous opponents. For many guys, such matches happened for the first time in their lives. Having received this invaluable practice, players will continue to progress and grow. I assess the club’s overall performance in the Champions League as positive; moreover, even before the start of the season, the task was clearly formulated: to play in the Champions League with dignity. Worthy does not mean reaching the next round or getting into the Europa League. Worthy means performing to the limit of your capabilities, drawing the right conclusions and improving the overall quality of football.
- You were with the team in Liverpool, what was the atmosphere in the locker room after the defeat?
There was deathly silence. Of course, we were all hurt; such defeats are not so easy to survive. But, I repeat, for all of us it was first and foremost an experience, so whether we lost 0:1 or 0:7, for the tournament situation the result is the same. In Liverpool, the team came out to play to win, to fight for the right to continue playing in the tournament, in such a situation it was either hit or miss.
Weren't you worried about the psychological state of the players? Many experts said that, for example, Alexander Selikhov should not bet on the match against CSKA...
Sasha, although young, is a very promising, high-quality and professional player. Still, we saw the match with CSKA, he and the whole team were able to redeem themselves for those seven goals in England.
After the victory over CSKA, Leonid Fedun said that the team would fully make amends only if it beat the leading Lokomotiv with a score of 4:0. Is this a joke or do you really believe that you can still catch up with the “railroad workers”?
Nail Izmailov is the new vice-president of the Moscow football club Spartak. Where did this sports functionary come from, who became right hand in the team of the owner of the “red-whites” Many fans are asking these questions today.
Biography of the functionary
Nail Izmailov was born in 1976. He was born in Moscow.
In the early 90s he became a student at the Metropolitan State University of Environmental Management. Received higher education with a degree in ecology. Later he became the owner of two more diplomas - from a higher commercial school, which was based at the Federal Ministry of Economic Development and at the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Federation. He graduated from his last educational institution in 2011.
Many contradictory facts are known about Nail Izmailov’s youth. For example, they say that while studying at the university, he worked as an ordinary bouncer in a bar. Over time, Nail Izmailov himself admitted this to the journalist, noting that the work was not without interest. True, in the future this hobby did not receive any continuation. The hero of our article never became interested in martial arts.
Professional career
Before coming to Spartak, Nail Izmailov changed more than one occupation. His creative path was very diverse.
Since 2006, by his own admission, he has been overseeing several large investment projects, combining this with work in a company owned by a large financial group.
He also has experience in the real business sector. Izmailov Nail Kamilievich collaborated with duty-free stores, clothing boutiques, and chain grocery supermarkets. There is also an entry in his work book about working in the Federal Ministry of Natural Resources. After all, by first education he is an ecologist. Izmailov held the position of specialist at the Center for Socio-Economic Analysis.
He has a master's degree. He defended it in environmental engineering.
Relations with Spartak
When Nail Izmailov became vice-president of Spartak, everyone immediately noticed that he, unlike most other leaders of the Red-Whites, was not trying to measure his popularity with Zenit St. Petersburg.
He himself looks like a fairly experienced and competent specialist and sports functionary. For example, once in a conversation with a journalist I discussed that in Russia, according to statistics, there are about 20 million fans. And Spartak's matches have some of the highest ratings in the country. So the team can safely be recognized as one of the official state brands. Because Spartak's victory ultimately benefited everything Russian football. At the very least, it was economically beneficial to him, because millions of fans throughout Russia, who had been rooting for Spartak for many years to no avail, now realized that everything was not in vain.
This success of the “red-whites” in the domestic national football championship led to the fact that the interest of fans in football grew even more, and there were more fans who were interested in this sport. And all this is especially important on the eve of the upcoming FIFA World Cup, which will be held in Russia for the first time.
Responsibilities at Spartak
In this position, Spartak vice-president Nail Izmailov oversees an important economic block in the club. He is directly responsible for replenishing the budget, infrastructure facilities, developing a ticket program, and interacting with fans.
Izmailov is responsible for everything that concerns the income of the football club. These include stores with team symbols and paraphernalia, trade operations, sponsorship contracts, the implementation of rights owned directly by the club, as well as advertising and marketing issues.
Izmailov himself admits that he is facing important task- develop integrated approach so that the club can earn money regularly. Only in this case will shareholders be able to compensate for their expenses. In the future, the “red-whites” expect to enter an IPO in the near future and begin to attract real money from the sale of shares. There are also serious plans to expand the infrastructure network. Moreover, in this case we are talking not only about Russian regions, but also about foreign countries. These are, for example, America and China, where they also know and love Spartak Moscow.
Currently, most of these plans are in their infancy. It will be interesting to see which ones will be implemented.