The Russian biathlon team consisting of Ulyana Kaisheva, Galina Nechkasova, Matvey Eliseev and Maxim Tsvetkov won bronze medals in the mixed relay at the Winter Military World Games, which are held in Sochi. The Austrian team won, and the representatives of France finished second. The opening of the Military World Games took place yesterday, February 24.
World War Games. Sochi, Russia
Biathlon. Mixed relay
1. Austria - 1:19:51.7
2. France - +3.2
3. Russia - +2:59.4
Yuryevna, for Matvey, it was probably still useful to go for a run, otherwise it was really a month without starts. True, the track is not his at all, he is too large for such soft tracks.
Maxim was not needed there, his situation was just the opposite. There was no need for him to run away before Korea in Sochi.
From experience, Nechkasova is also not a girl, tea is not a World Cup or even a World Cup stage. It’s just that the readiness of those who speak at the CD is extremely low.
Yes, it was a depressing sight. Nechkasova showed her complete unpreparedness... Although I wouldn’t put the blame entirely on her. The composition was so unbalanced by the coaches that only one question arises: what were they thinking? Did you think that Tsvetkov would tear everyone apart? But he is not a wizard. Indeed, Zagoruiko would be out of place here. At least she has more experience in performing in the staff.
They threw out Matvey, who had no starts for a whole month... In general, how stupid everything is
Bronze, but not fun at all, 5 laps, how can you shoot like that, yeah...
It was a terrifying sight... And why was it necessary to put Matvey and Maxim in this relay race? Edik Latypov and Kornev, for example, would be perfect fits. Or Klyachin.
Analitik, absolutely rightly noted about Kaisheva’s technique. Moving on “wooden” legs, perhaps only a blind person would not notice this. What I’ve been talking about since the time of the same Zaitseva, comparing her running technique with Domracheva’s technique. And it would be okay if with her height there was a length of the skate (due to the strength of her arms), but this is not the case. I'm just tired of writing about this. And in order to teach, let alone retrain (which is much more difficult), you need to start with trainers so that they keep up with advanced views and methods. Take the same Sergei Ustyugov, that he himself learned such accelerations uphill? I am sure this is the merit of his coach, who instilled in him a similar style of attacking uphill and developed his speed qualities in time.
Analitik, even with this problem she performed excellently in Antholz last year. As I understand it, after reaching a certain limit (not in a specific race, but in total for the season), the speed of return from anaerobic regime to aerobic. If you don’t reach this limit ahead of time, maybe everything will be fine, although this is a palliative; of course, you need to look for and eliminate the cause.
Ivan Pokhmelev, it’s not a matter of failure, but some kind of medical problem that still won’t be figured out. And the point is in the mood of Olga, who believes that she is taking someone’s place, does not say directly, but implies. (
And who says that talent needs to be retrained, especially when there is a result?
Analitik, it is clear that for Kaisheva two years ago it was decided not to force it.
But somehow the years go by, and we keep waiting and waiting.
Although, if we compare Ulyana with our other girls at 23, she is second only to Svetik.
Maybe there is no need to rush too much. At the age of 23, Olga Zaitseva competed at the European Championships only twice. And even then it’s not very successful.
I would like to believe that TS knows what they are doing.
MSMC-76, you can also remember Michael Johnson, the record holder and champion, who ran in a completely paradoxical style. What if they started retraining him?
Analitik, Podchufarova is not going to miss the next season. If, finally, she is correctly brought to the GS, then she will be very useful, especially in the relay race.
The most shameful relay race, there is nothing more to say! It’s not clear what they were thinking about, did they want to “throw their hats in” or did they come to Sochi to relax? It's not clear! All participants got one outfit out of turn, and G. Nechkasov got an outfit for the kitchen, peeling potatoes, although now in the army it’s completely different: a buffet, 1 year of service - a pure sanatorium!
Khinskiy, if you put the question this way, then Vasnetsova and her friends need to tighten up (if with the prospect of 22), my opinion.
It’s a sensitive question, but if at 24 years old Kaisheva doesn’t have the technology, where is the likelihood that she will appear by the age of 28? (
Khinsky, sorry for the provocative questions, they are more likely for the fans who walk around here with stupidly zombified slogans. All our girls have a lot of shortcomings. (
The Russian Armed Forces biathlon team won bronze medal in the mixed relay III winter World War Games in Sochi (February 22-28). Our team, which included Galina Nechkasova, Ulyana Kaisheva, Matvey Eliseev and Maxim Tsvetkov, had five penalty laps - this result was the worst in the race. What happened to Russian biathletes at the shooting ranges, the CSKA senior coach for winter species sports and coach of the Russian Armed Forces team Nikolai Pankratov.
– Nikolai Vladimirovich, our team ran five penalty loops, two of them were scored by world champion ensign Maxim Tsvetkov, three were earned by Galina Nechkasova. What happened?
– Yesterday in the individual race the guys gave it their all and, apparently, did not have time to recover for the mixed relay. In addition, the strong wind made its own adjustments: only one athlete from the French army team, Colin Varchin, did not make a single mistake. Unfortunately, our team was the worst in this component - we used 14 extra rounds.
– Why didn’t the bronze medalist of the 2017 World Cup, junior sergeant Tatyana Akimova, perform as part of the team?
“She didn’t feel well the day before.” But now, looking at final result mixed relay, I think she should have run anyway. I am sure that if Akimova had participated, everything could have been different.
(According to the press center of the Sochi Military World Games)
Analitik, you can, of course, bet on the experienced Yurlova, Glazyrina, Starykh, Uslugin, Sleptsova at the Olympic Games. And Zagoruiko hasn’t said everything yet.
But in any case, these girls will leave in a year and what will we be left with?
With Kaisheva, Mironova and Slivko, who between them don’t even have a dozen KM races.
And it’s not 30-year-olds who need to look at their passports, but young people. They are already 23 years old, but no one takes them seriously.
People, so what to do, the Olympics are a year away. Podchufarova seems to be skipping the next season, it’s not clear what will happen to Glazyrina. Are we at a loss?
Yurlova will return (it’s not clear which one), plus Starykh, Akimov and who else?
I can’t believe that Kaisheva will have time to increase shoulder girdle, Mironova has made progress in shooting, but how will she behave in international starts? It feels like we have arrived.
Analitik, it takes a season to change technology. But why didn't they think of this before?
A lot has been done with Kaisheva over the past two seasons. good job over the passage of the line and the rate of fire. According to these indicators, she was among the best and only here she won at 4 points up to 30 seconds.
But the miracle worker Medvedtsev came, promising everyone speed, and the approach to shooting deteriorated, and so did the shooting itself. And the speed only got worse.
Analyst, here Khinskiy correctly noted about Kaisheva’s technique.
I noticed from interviews with athletes: when they “get” into the national team, they are “assigned” equipment. Well, well.
Athletes were invited to the team ALREADY having the appropriate results; with “your” technology.
He spoke earlier: develop “strengths” and level out, if THIS is what it seems to the national team coaches, “flaws”, BUT, do not break what is ALREADY “sitting in your head” on a subconscious level.
No matter what “equipment they put in”, when they “get enough”, they will unconsciously “run as they ran before.”
In short, from interviews with athletes, it is noticeable that “everyone wants to show that they had a hand in the result,” but athletes are “disfigured.”
They “bury” the reason why the athlete was invited to the national team.
The national coach MUST be a CONSULTANT, working closely with the athlete's personal trainer.
About 3 years ago I wrote quite a lot about this; To be honest, I don’t want to repeat myself.
As an example of a technique:
S. S. Shahin, world record holder in the 3000m steeplechase; the first person to run the “8 minute” distance.
He, in the generally accepted understanding, does not run. While running, he “sits on a chair.”
How is THAT possible?!
And he runs “from 8 minutes”!
NO ONE “BREAKED” HIM; he was simply HELPED to improve HIS “STRENGTHS.”
In order to change the technique, it is necessary to accurately determine whether “stretching” and specific muscle groups will be able to ensure the implementation of the planned work/load for a sufficiently long time and with increasing “acidification” of the muscles.
To ride 200-500m with “new equipment” on a “camera” is a bullshit question, but whether an athlete with the same frequency and push-off force will be able to “ride” the ENTIRE competitive distance is a BIG question. This preparation will take more than one year.
But we like to create difficulties for ourselves and courageously/heroically overcome them!
PS. According to Kaisheva, about 2 years ago he also said: the girl “matured” faster than her peers and in adolescence, naturally, she had no equal.
Her peers and rivals have “matured” more “smoothly” and are already “moving on”, while OUR athlete’s “natural boost” has dried up (and most likely, “has already fulfilled its negative role”).
I wrote not to “go through” OUR athlete, but expressed my opinion about the girls “early champions”.
Tasha, Kravtsov says that you can’t do anything in a short time, but they don’t do it. The girls were completely abandoned.
Mironova is a skier like Akimova. How many times has Tatyana fallen this year? We are waiting for how long it will take to kill Mironov. (Some kind of hopelessness.
Khinsky, God forbid she turns her head on already! Experience shows that people who are self-prepared survive in our country.
Analitik, the problem is that with us, every newly hired temporary worker does not continue the work done by his colleagues before him, but begins to redo everything in his own way.
If you personal trainer enough weight, then he can somehow correct all this. And Kaisheva is forced to believe in another miracle worker.
True, there are some changes. Ulyana usually said after mistakes, “We’ll sort it out with the coach.”
In Sochi, I first heard from her “I will figure this out.”))
Analyst, if Shipulin’s technique was changed, then you can imagine what the girls’ equipment is like. Although Mironova’s is amazing.
Khinskiy, I’m not a pro, if this catches my eye, where are the coaches looking? And we can write a separate song about our girls’ descents.
Coaches change every year, it is clear that nothing can be done in a year, but if each of them made an effort to eliminate shortcomings, would there be a result? One thing is clear, all these comrades are temporary workers under the roof of the RRF. (
Analitik, this has been discussed for a long time. Most say that Medvedtsev changed Kaisheva’s technique to a more expensive one, and the shoulder girdle was weak and remains weak.
The long ride has disappeared and all the strength goes into unnecessary fuss. With this technique, she hardly relaxes on the track and does not have enough strength for the entire distance.
It’s strange to imagine, but Kaisheva’s technique today is 5 years of working with the best Russian coaches under the leadership of Kasperovich.
People, I wanted to ask, how do you like Kaisheva’s ski technique? In other places on KM, KIBU it was not particularly visible. And here they were running... once or twice and I was out of number. The girl walks straight as a stick, without bending, she doesn’t push well with her arms, I didn’t see any load on her arms, she moves out only using her legs. It seemed to me that Nechkasova skated more harmoniously or something. I would like to hear from the skiers, did anything cut you?
I’m watching the finals of the team sprints, turned off the sound, turned on Status Quo – In The Army Now, it helps...)
Hmm... The rest lived exclusively in the mountains and purposefully prepared for war games, solely for the sake of making our semi-reserve squad - not just war games, but some kind of Olympic Games...
Yura, in Sochi the altitude is 1600 m above sea level. Let me remind you that Hochfilzen is located below. Is adaptation to altitude possible? Of course. Hence the glitches in physics and shooting. Is it a secret to you that our boys and girls don’t run very well at such a height? Remember how Kaisheva felt in Anterselva, the same Eliseev? Nechkasova has been running on the plains for a long time and only trained in the mountains before the Games. Tsvetkov was immediately sent to Sochi without rest from an altitude of 900 m to 1600 m, and now he will fly to Korea. These high-rise swings can cut down any champion. For some reason, for Tsvetkov, the GS is the World Cup, Sochi, and Korea. Didn't they put too much on the guy? Latypov, Klyachin, Kornev also rose sharply into the mountains from the plain. What result were you all expecting? The lyrics will be forgotten, but the bronze will remain.
Alexey Alekseevich, here I agree with you.
For the collections, no matter how much they talked about the importance of these starts, this was just a stage of preparation for other, more important competitions.
But for second-tier athletes, the race in Sochi could have been a chance for a breakthrough and their mood would have been different.
The eyes of our boys and girls did not sparkle.
Nastya was just as bad, so I don’t think the result would have been much different from what happened - as for the mediocre performance - I don’t think it’s worth writing off the fact that the collections, by and large, served their labor service here and it’s possible that they were simply saving forces before more important competitions without considering these war games seriously. I’ll say right away that there is no need to provide links to their interviews where they say how important this medal is for them - try and say something different - but those for whom these games really had a chance to prove themselves and show, prove their superiority in that including over unmotivated collections, which, by and large, at a distance at least should be irritants for them - since no matter who says anything - they are, in relation to the second composition, direct and more successful competitors for a place in the base - alas, Once again this chance was missed.
Leonid Alexandrovich, I also think that Nastya would have done a better job.
fresher_galina, not necessarily Akimov. I think if I had put the same Zagoruiko instead of Nechkasova, the result would have been different. And men would twitch less, so as not to embarrass themselves. In general, the reason for such a performance is that no one seriously prepared for these starts (even the same collections). When we arrive, we’ll put everyone on one left and say hello. In a word, a devil-may-care attitude. In addition, the altitude, which is not something to joke about, and the inability to properly wax skis in positive weather also made themselves felt. I don't think it will be any better next stage KM in Korea.
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HORROR! And they are to blame for this coaching staff. Why couldn’t Akimova be put on the first stage? Nothing would have happened if she had missed, if necessary, one race at the World Cup. After all, this is a defense of the honor of our Army. It was impossible to look at this DISGRACE. There is no need to blame it on Maxim, the World Champion, and Matvey. Were they supposed to make up such a gap? Yes, these are fairy tales. Shoigu needs to dismiss Nechkasova from the ranks of the RA, why do we need such defenders who can neither shoot nor run? Everyone was looking forward to the biathlon, but it turned out that it would have been better not to have it. It was necessary to take 6th place out of 6 teams - and they would have been in colors.
I just can’t understand why this is the result. The collections were running! And a world champion after all. Or maybe the opponents had a strong lineup, otherwise I’m not catching up with something. And they drained it with their feet. I just watched the race briefly, but who knows the composition of the competitors?
“Conquered” does not apply to this case. It was a sad sight: (This is not how I would like to see the army team.
And this..., medals and stars must be washed after the competition flag is lowered. Otherwise we will begin to doubt our army.
worchun, “...What did Kaisheva do that was so terrible? Are you 30 seconds behind the leader? When Podchufarova was half a minute behind at the World Championships, she was blamed for the team’s failure, but when Ulyana fell behind by the same amount at competitions that were approximately equal in level of participants to the Russian Championship, was everything okay?
Irina, if they had installed Tatyana, it would have immediately said: “Have you decided to drive Akimov away?”
It is not clear why Eliseev was kept in Khokh, and not sent to adapt to Sochi, now he will only begin to acclimatize - and to the plain in Kontiolahti
zakol, perhaps you are right. I saw only two additional stages of Eliseev. I didn’t go into circles, and I saw that I played a minute. I didn’t see any opponents’ circles. I watched the recording without sound at the same time they showed Ustyugov. So I must have missed something. Do you want to say that Eliseev was walking?
Well, then Kaisheva is really the best)).
If a Frenchman and an Austrian went into circles, then they were just on guard)).
LES, if the technology works on paper and in the rest of the military industry, no one will think twice about it, they’ll just sharpen up their skis (you already do), that’s why the greenery goes over the hill
Elen, are you sure you watched the race?
Eliseev
got a gap of +3:14.6
in front of the counter, almost the same +3:07.9 (the Frenchman has a prone lap)
after the stand +1:55.3 (here the Austrian leader went two laps)
gear +2:04.7
Everything that Eliseev “won back”, Zhuti and Brunner lost, fighting with each other. Eliseev was not even close. Austrian and French, both with KE. From the second or third ten. What did you see that was normal here?
The army gives! IN holidays so disgrace yourself. And the members of the national team fled, even the world champion fled.
Once my granddaughter pleased me with a beautiful certificate, which indicated that she took second place in freestyle swimming at a distance of 50 meters. I shed tears of joy and asked: how many competitors did you beat? The answer amused me: 2 people took part in the competition. And here there are as many as 6 teams (after all, this is the Military World Games), and no one is offended: everyone is in colors. :))
It seems like respected Russian athletes, but they don’t try to analyze why all of ours have such a move in two days, in my opinion Dddurkin should not be allowed to lubricate his skis. I agree with Napoleon, what are the claims against Ulyana, she did the best job. and let him say thank you for not turning in the old fool
Sokolov Vladimir Eremeevich, Where did Eliseev mess up? Looks like I've had a decent run. Of the remaining three participants, Kaisheva was the best.
It is not clear what kind of claims are made against Kaisheva?
I haven’t seen such a disgrace in our performance for a long time... Horror! Each of our biathletes made their contribution in this relay, where only six teams started. I understand that War Games is not a high ranking competition, but don't stoop to the same level...
The main “contribution” of Nechkasova, of course, was three penalty loops and a snail’s pace. The guys rushed to fix it and also messed up.
I'd rather forget...
Shoigu will hit them.
Bronze for which you don’t have to fight, the others need to run worse. What did Kaisheva do that was so terrible? Are you 30 seconds behind the leader? But it was clear from Nechkasova’s face: I didn’t force myself, they set it up themselves - and you’ll get it!
Are they soldiers of the Russian army? Can't believe it
Vladimir, what kind of shooting? In Russian, it was clear that they ran away with all the money. There was no time left to shoot. And there was not enough money.
It feels like the whole team yesterday strongly celebrated someone’s gold... and silver-bronze... Hence the tremors, hence the circles
Obviously, they reacted to the race, to put it mildly, coolly...
World Military Games- a multi-sport competition organized for military athletes. Organizer - International Military Sports Council.
The Military World Games have been held since 1995. III Winter Games in 2017 will be held in Russia in the city of Sochi. Before this, the Military World Games were held in cities such as Rome, Rio de Janeiro, Zagreb, etc.
The sports program of the III Winter Military World Games 2017 consists of 7 sports:
- Biathlon
- Ski racing
- Alpine skiing
- Ski mountaineering
Competition schedule
| Type of sport/disciplines |
Wednesday 22/02 |
Thursday 23/02 |
Friday 24/02 |
Saturday 25/02 |
Resurrection 26/02 |
Monday 27/02 |
Tuesday 28/02 |
Sports facility / Venue |
| Day 1 | Day 2 | Day 3 | Day 4 | Day 5 | ||||
| Arrival/Departure | Arrival | Departure | ||||||
| Ceremonies |
20.00 - 00.00
Opening ceremony |
20.00 - 00.00
Closing ceremony of the games |
Multifunctional arena "Ice Cube" | |||||
| Ski mountaineering |
08.00 - 12.00
Individual race men's, women's |
08.00 - 12.30
Team race men's, women's |
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| Rock climbing |
11.00 - 18.00
Difficulty climbing (qualification) |
11.00 - 14.00
Difficulty climbing (semi-final) 20.00 - 22.00 Difficulty climbing (final, duel) |
10.00 - 15.00
Bouldering (qualification) 20.00 - 22.00 Bouldering (final) |
9.30 - 11.00
Speed climbing (classic format, qualification) 11.00 - 12.00 Speed climbing (classic format, final) 14.00 - 16.00 Speed climbing (record format, qualification) 16.00 - 17.00 Speed climbing (record format, final) |
Bolshoi Sports Palace | |||
| Ski racing |
11.00 - 14.00
Official training |
09.30 - 12.30
Individual race (free style) 10 km. women, 15 km. husband. |
17.00 - 18.30
Official training |
10.00 - 12.30
Team sprint (free style) |
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| Alpine skiing |
09.00 - 14.00
Official training |
09.30 - 13.00
Slalom men. |
09.30 - 13.00
Slalom women |
Ski center"Rosa Khutor" | ||||
| Biathlon |
15.00 - 19.00
Official training |
13.30 - 14.45
Sprint 10 km. husband. 16.00 - 17.00 Sprint 7.5 km. wives |
15.00 - 16.30
Mixed relay |
15.30 - 17.00
Official training for men and women. |
13.00 - 14.30
Patrol race 15 km. wives 15.30 - 17.15 Patrol race 20km. husband. |
Ski and biathlon complex "Laura" | ||
| Short track |
10.00 - 14.00
Official training |
16.00 - 18.00
500m race. male, female |
18.30 - 21.00
1000m race. male, female |
18.30 - 20.30
Mixed 3000m relay. male, female |
Ice Palace"Iceberg" | |||
| Ski orienteering |
11.00 - 14.00
Official training |
09.00 - 12.00
Average distance male, female |
13.00 - 15.00
Sprint men's, women's |
09.00 - 11.00
Relay race for men and women |
Ski and biathlon complex "Laura" |
More than 1,000 army personnel from 20 countries confirmed their participation in the competition. 36 sets of medals will be competed in individual and team competitions.
The sports program will consist of seven sports: biathlon, cross-country skiing, alpine skiing, orienteering skiing, ski mountaineering, indoor sport climbing, short track.
The event will take place on sports facilities Sochi.
On the square near the town hall of the Rosa Khutor resort there will be daily free concerts, flash mobs, and interactive sessions with spectators on sports topics.
On the opening day, the flame of the III Winter Military World Games will arrive at the resort, with which CSKA athletes will light a special bowl at the Big Ice Arena.
More than 500 volunteers will be involved in the games, reports the press service of the Sochi administration.
Entry to all games will be free!
BIATHLON
Name sports discipline comes from two Latin words “twice” and “wrestling”, which is why biathlon was originally called modern winter combined event. Includes ski race and rifle shooting at several firing lines.The first race, vaguely reminiscent of biathlon, was organized by border guards on the Swedish-Norwegian border back in 1767. In the 19th century in Norway, biathlon emerged as a sport for soldiers. The progenitor of modern biathlon - the competition of military patrols, was presented at Olympic Games in 1924, 1928, 1936 and 1948.
As part of the III Winter Military World Games, competitions will be held in the following events: sprint (7.5 km for women, 10 km for men), mixed relay (6 km for women and 7.5 km for men) and patrol race (15 km for women, 20 km for men).
Patrol Race – modern look military patrol competitions (the race that is the ancestor of biathlon). This is a race with a distance of 20 km for men and 15 km for women, with three shooting stages. Each participating country can enter two patrols (male and female).
The team consists of four athletes - biathletes and skiers. One of the team members is the patrol leader, three are patrol members, each of whom fires from a prone position and fires one shot at the center of his installation. In case of misses - penalty loops according to the number of team misses according to IBU rules.
Sprint– a type of biathlon race of 10 km for men and 7.5 km for women with two shooting ranges. Biathletes start at intervals of 30 seconds. After the first round, shooting is done from a prone position, after the second - standing. Biathletes themselves choose firing positions at the shooting range for shooting. For each miss there is a penalty loop of 150 m.
Mixed relay- team competition in biathlon. The team consists of four athletes (two women and two men). Each biathlete goes through one stage, which is 6 km for women and 7.5 km for men, with two shooting ranges.
One representative from each country starts at the same time and, having completed their stage, passes the baton to the next biathlete from their team. Women complete their distances first, then men. At each stage there are two shootings: the first is lying down, the second is standing. The athlete has three spare cartridges for each shooting session. If a biathlete runs out of spare cartridges, then for each subsequent miss a penalty loop of 150 m is provided.
